coming up on our team more sanctions on russia the u.s. government accuses russia of supporting armed separatists in eastern ukraine find out how moscow responds just ahead and afghanistan and economic downturn the country is now plagued with a weakening housing market and a lack of business infrastructure as u.s. troops prepare to depart more on that coming up. and i pod or the government demands that u.s. defense department employees leave the american embassy and a deadline or move all is just a few days away we'll tell you all the details later in the show.

it's monday april twenty eighth and then washington d.c. i'm on your i david and you're watching r.t. america we begin tonight in ukraine where violence is rising in the eastern part of the country the mayor of ukraine's second largest city has been shot that mayor is the mayor of car keys and he was shot in the back this morning according to city hall officials doctors are performing surgery to save his life meanwhile in the regional capital of eastern ukraine pro kiev demonstrators marching down the streets clashed with and tights you have protesters artie's policy clear is in donetsk with more. let me. take a straight shooter street. and you crave to get it back i weighed sixty administration building where there have been killed by tested for the seven days now they've been holding that building safe ok for me for the weekend and they're in charge of the moment because. we're seeing a group with

a very angry they face a cabinet you can see some of them banging the show it seems as if the scene is being saved a confrontation. and that confrontation came when they met about two thousand pro pistols among them members of radical movements during the siege paid as police try to break rations up a number of people injured the crowd as they did here in front of the local administration building as you can see some people have various here this is the kind of people i mean. they keep saying. they could be on the show. you want to. make them be. street be angry because we can check with russian channels things have to improve and he ended to be protesters have had to be shields back to the police but

tensions are still high and it's only a matter of time before there's another flare up policy on t.v. tonight. the u.s. and e.u. are preparing to impose fresh sanctions against russia amid continuing action by separatists in ukraine western nations accuse moscow of supporting the gunmen who are occupying official buildings in cities across the country as a result twenty eight european union member states are meeting in brussels to agree on new sanctions against russia that was already has asset freezes and travel bans in place targeting a number of russian individuals accused of instigating the chaos in crimea last month for more on the very latest earlier i spoke to our teas in marina port from our new york studio i first asked her to tell us what these new sanctions and tail . well the latest round of sanctions targets seven russian government officials and seventeen entities including banks construction energy and transport companies many

officials being targeted have close relations with president vladimir putin including igor section he's the president and chairman of the management board of bras now now as a result of these sanctions assets belonging to the russian individuals or the companies that are within us jurisdiction will be frozen thirteen of the seventeen companies additional restrictions as the u.s. government plans to cut off the export or re export of american made products washington has also announced a tightening policy to deny export license applications for any high technology items that could contribute to russia's military capabilities i guess it goes without saying that all seven russian officials most recently listed. to be targeted sanctions have also been slapped with a travel ban and obviously the u.s. is unhappy what are the specific complaints well the white house believes that

moscow has failed to live up to the april seventeenth geneva joint statement in which russia agreed to take concrete steps to deescalate the situation in ukraine the white house accuses moscow of further provoking the crisis in an effort to destabilize ukraine those allegations moscow vehemently denies now president barack obama said the goal of the new round of sanctions is not to target president putin but to rather change his calculus and encourage him to quote walk the walk not just talk the talk on diplomacy to resolve the crisis in ukraine but here's the here's the problem with that putin is walking the walk of president putin is walking the walk the u.s. just wants the russian leader to march according to america's instructions that's not something he's going to do because he sees the crisis. any differently than the u.s. sees it he's approaching it differently than the way u.s. is approaching it and now the u.s. is saying we're going to keep piling on sanctions until you begin to see it the way

that we see it and solve it the way that we want to solve certainly a different perspective have we heard any response from russia get over this latest round well russia's deputy foreign minister sergei. called a new round of sanctions revolting he insisted that they go against the way civilized states should communicate moscow says it has no choice other than to respond to washington's latest rounds of penalties so we can probably expect russia to announce a new list of sanctions in the near future and there has been some dispute over whether these things will have any impact in the short term whatsoever based on what we've seen from the last round issued by the united states last month there's a look like those targeted will truly be hurt by these sanctions well senior u.s. officials admit themselves that they don't expect immediate change in russian policy as a result of these new sanctions instead they're saying that the same sions are

reportedly being used as more of a signal that more economic pain could be imposed if moscow doesn't change course on ukraine now the u.s. president says that that america and its allies are keeping broader sanctions in reserve in the invent of further escalation on the ground in ukraine and press. that sanctions can actually be an advantage for russia how so he certainly has president putin says the threat of real u.s. economic sanctions is actually bolstering domestic business bringing more offshore funds back to russia and giving policymakers the push they need to establish a domestic payment system the russian leader also says that u.s. sanctions have given russia the incentive to be more self-sufficient and reduce its dependent dependence on outside players russian prime minister dmitry medvedev recently noted that any restrictions on russian goods to the e.u.

or us would serve to redirect russian exports to asian markets which which he says are more robust alright artie's marina poured in from our new york studio as always thanks so much thanks and your. afghanistan is now preparing for a presidential election runoff with the country's former finance and foreign ministers competing for the seat of power but as artie's lucy catherine off reports whoever claims that position will be faced with an economy going rapidly downhill. kabul today a far cry from the ghost town of the one nine hundred ninety s. western governments spent over one hundred billion dollars here since the ouster of the taleban but now the country is on the edge of a fiscal cliff foreign aid covers more than half of the government's budget and with nato combat troops due to leave at the end of the year it's unclear if donors

will continue to spend the fear is that the war economy could soon that relate this indicates that the flow of money has created the bubble economy which is not sustainable we can live for ever something which is not real in that sort of. hurt because that people. to corruption for a hint of what's to come look no further than the kabul skyline the high rises and pricey mansions are now monuments to a boom gone bust sales have flatlined and vacancies are on the rise the average afghan earns roughly five hundred dollars a year but homes like this one used to easily go for ten thousand dollars a month the market was propped up by an influx of international organizations and there are thousands of workers now countries are pulling out into real estate agents the glory days are over. the. top of the business is terrible the security

situation has gotten worse so my customers are all leaving everyone is too scared to invest because the uncertainty. the collapse of the housing market is a symptom of a bigger problem in the past twelve years and not international community and not bad when government itself has not made good progress and that it needs i would just say to people this is the big economy in afghanistan it. doesn't exist it is needed for everything we import finding product. they're made in afghanistan is surprisingly hard even the burka is now an import. from china now it's too expensive to make them the traditional western aid projects were supposed to help make afghanistan more self-sufficient the u.s. built this industrial park at a cost of seven million dollars but when we visited we found that most of the businesses had folded these sewing machines were once used to make afghan military and police uniforms paid for by nato and the americans but this once thriving

factory has been idle for two years now the foreigners are leaving and the contracts have dried up so have the jobs this was one of the largest factories in call ball now more than a thousand of its employees are out of work the paradox is that war both crippled afghanistan's economy and almost entirely supported it a boon for afghan construction companies and trucking firms but no more. u.s. forces spend more than one hundred billion dollars even a fraction of. falling into the afghan economy you know significant enough that there's these opinion with a lot of businesses a lot but not all at the temple some processing company raisins from farms across the country are sorted washed and packed up for export it's a picture of afghan success most businessmen focused on contracts from foreign and didn't build factories and things. if they have the situation would be far better

today but the lack of security has made people afraid of long term investors overcoming those fears is a massive challenge more than a decade of easy money created and a dependency stage wife with corruption afghans are about to get a new president but people here know that he'll face the same old problem just how to revive an economy after its financial lifeline is pulled for good lucie county no fourteen kabul. and now to quito ecuador where the government has ordered all twenty defense department employee u.s. and u.s. embassies military group to leave the country by the end of the month this is all according to embassy spokesman jeffrey when sanker who told the associated press that the embassy received a formal letter earlier this month alerting them to the imminent expulsion of the group this comes just three months after the president of ecuador rafael correia publicly complained that the u.s. had too many military officers in the country at the time he claimed their presence

was scandalous and that they had infiltrated all sectors to discuss as i was joined earlier by larry brennan's burns director at the council on hemispheric affairs i began by asking him about the role of that kind of foreign military personnel in the country. it's the military. let us say if you hadn't come. in here. to the u.s. embassy. and measure the people with. money when. his program. falls through. the. military and also. on the darker side.

usually some form of work. well what we saw the tension servicing were guarding this relationship back in january when president correa began to publicly complain about their presence saying they had put infiltrated all sectors what was your ferndale. well. this thing just didn't start. with very least. getting of the year. remember that president. is one of the new wave of present in america. heavy into the. into the. u.s. foreign policy goals you can reach a problem is exacerbated by the fact. he doesn't have

a lot of. complete disarray very little of. american policy and the result that. various countries. involved on the roadway. showed a very opportune moment for a country like actors on the president's life. who feels comfortable with. dependency. a country like a. free. free to. actual size version. of this situation can only get worse. made considerably worse by the fact that it will be.

leaking. as. information concerning. intelligence. the actors are. infuriated. by whether that's. true let it be known. that the current course of us with our relation to. go on to this situation was further exacerbated by the fact that. we're going to one of those will describe because. the us has made a change. in the country as it was responsible. for some of the acts of chengdu through. killing a number colombian leftist guerrillas who had sought sanctuary in. ecuador. period is president. well larry if i could just jump

in as you know the u.s. embassy spokesman i quit door has defended the d.o.d.'s presence of course saying you know this cooperation goes back four decades and that all activities military personnel carry out our first approved by ecuadorian officials what do you make of that response well the problem is that you as a trade issue. american who are going to do should show a low. is show what a threat that no one is prepared to spend just leave and say well we're there we're poised to greet. the intelligence activities in latin america with late show. through zero zero zero. there is so much data out there we forget if you take the fact gauging that such

activities. really shamefaced about it. we're talking about a situation that's going to take years decades to repair. us . through. we right change with a great. parent work you andy there will be a lot of repair work to do i hate to cut you off we've unfortunately run out of time larry birns director of the council on hemispheric affairs thank you so much. mayor congressman michael grimm surrendered to the f.b.i. this morning ironic because graham himself used to work for the f.b.i. before his political career started graham was indicted on twenty counts of fraud connected to health alicia's i'm going to and based restaurant he owned and

operated before running for congress but all prosecutors are charging grand with evading the i.r.s. and making one million dollars in revenue somehow disappear previously the state find how solutions eighty eight thousand dollars for not providing worker compensation the same workers accuse the owners of giving out cash to skirt taxes and business laws and you may remember that back in january congressman graham was caught on camera lashing out against one new york new york one reporter michael scotto after being asked about the pending investigation to collect. lion in the clear. with. me. i would not.

be. congressman graham pleaded not guilty in court today to the fraud charges and he has vowed to stay in office but needless to say he'll be on the defense while trying to win his reelection this november. happy birthday hubbell hubble space telescope that is optical instrument just past its twenty fourth birthday the craft was launched back in april of one nine hundred ninety becoming the first major telescope ever launched into space and while it marked a major achievement for nasa it's a reminder that the space agency's budget is dwindling while private space companies increase their capabilities artes make a lopez has a story by four three two one and we're going to take over the right place twenty four years ago this month the hubble telescope launched its way into space in the history books in the two decades since hubble's pictures have shown the world just how vast and beautiful our universe really is

this one of a kind orbiting observatory has given astronomers the opportunity to peer farther into space and time than ever before it has completed over one million observations photographed more than thirty eight thousand targets and help scientists rethink how the universe works just this month nasa released a new infrared light image captured by the observatory showing part of the monkey had no be a law which is over sixty four hundred light years away from earth close to the orion constellation the clouds are mostly comprised of hydrogen gas back here on earth we humans keep our eyes ever fixed on the night sky and the possibilities it holds turns out former presidential candidate newt gingrich isn't alone in thinking humans could one day live on other planets we will have the first prominent race on the moon and it will be america. only one third of people polled by. the pew

research center believe colonies on other planets will exist by twenty sixty four even nasa administrator charles bolden is jumping on board with this bold thinking this month he captured headlines by declaring that the future of humanity depends on space exploration winterburn throughout we're dependent on this planet we are now to move to planet species yet this species is to survive indefinitely we need to become a multi planet species he also laid out a multi-billion dollar plan to have humans land on mars by twenty thirty and plenty of people are ready and willing to be the first people to step into the great unknown last year more than two hundred thousand people around the world signed up to be the first people aboard that one way mission to mars those candidates have been whittled down to just over a thousand and eventually four lucky or perhaps not so lucky people will make the

final cut but even that journey could still be a ways out to that end nasa budget has been slashed year after year and physically are twenty fifteen is proving to be more of the same the white house has requested seventeen point four six billion dollars in funding for nasa a one hundred eighty six million dollar reduction from twenty fourteen right now the budget takes up point five percent of the federal budget this despite the fact that three quarters of respondents view nasa favorably making it the second most popular federal agency behind the center for disease control where nasa is lacking private space companies are stepping up last week the founder of space x. ilan musk announced that his company is closer to making space travel a reality space x. made a successful soft landing of a reusable rocket into the sea and while that rocket stage wasn't recoverable its success takes their endeavor to the next level for goes well. i am. optimistic that

we'll be able to learn to stage back at cape canaveral by the end of year landing it at the same place one jd musk says the possibility of a reusable rocket is the key to commercial spaceflights his company plans to lead the way in this type of innovation if we were cover the stage from the ocean will probably take a couple months to. refurbish it for flight. however for stage landing on land going back on land near the launch site in principle we should be able to reply at the same day private companies like space x. are now weaving the way in exploration and innovation things like asteroid mining and reusable rockets are just far off as they appear but it will take interests investment and international cooperation if humans are really want to shoot for the stars in washington meghan lopez r.t. and before we go don't forget to tune in at nine pm for larry king now it's

showrunner week all week larry is talking to the executive producers and writers of some of television's best series tonight he's talking to kurt sutter of sons of anarchy and carlton cuse one of the minds behind last here's a part of what's to come. i'm told you wrote an article for slate. about google's stance on the rudd laws what in essence was that about they really under the guise of. hey we all deserve a free internet they are slowly spending millions and millions of dollars each year to undermine the copyright laws that protect artists and and look the reality of it is all be ok but i look at my kids who you know want to be actors and writers and singers and songwriters and and have desires to live off of their creative content

and and i worry about them because you know if we continue this way they won't be protected in there won't be any kind of you know. economic model to protect them. so ten and nine pm tonight here on r t america that does it for now for more on the stories we cover go to you tube dot com slash r t america so i got our website r.t. dot com sites usa follow me on twitter adam you're a david and have a great night. nothing has been done this complex by the military since world war two. this is portrait we have historical terms the berlin airlift in reverse. order so for seven go down the bottom of some floats if you take off cause you're a stable you're talking really billions of dollars to move billions of dollars worth of work that's what for use the false no longer works you.

should all be outraged by the u.s. government spying and data collecting it's a load of crap for them to create case files on its citizens who are only guilty of using technology so it's important for us to fight it and if you want to be even angrier here's another thing to think about all of that data the being collected is in the hands of more morons clip the power to really screw us over a new report from varieties and really hammers that home they just released their seventh annual report on data breaches and information security and it found that

the biggest cause of security breaches to our information isn't espionage or cyber crime fourth baxter denial of service attacks it's just miscellaneous error in other words just some government doofus at an admin desk going. for the report horizon gathered information from over fifty organization including their own many of them big security firms or law enforcement agencies and they found that in two thousand and thirteen there were over sixty three thousands. curity incident and government's accounted for seventy five percent of those they include everything from major leaks to breaches that compromise the integrity confidentiality or availability of a piece of information and over ninety percent of all the incidents were caused by the lady as carers like government workers delivering nonpublic information to the wrong in this city and then hoops i just emailed this guy's personal information to

my boyfriend instead of to the d.m.v. in their report bryson posits the police and government organizations have the absolute worst record is that they're forced to report errors while private companies might hide their mistake the report says that it also could be because the government is the largest employer in the country so you can expect a larger number of hoops so according to this rationale it's kind of like the government is too big to fail except in this case the government is too big to not fail we need to remember that the government is one big fat idiot a bloated bureaucracy which see that bubbles along and makes a lot of stupid mistakes so while it sucks the government has a case files on all of us that they can share with whomever they want or use to frame us or who knows the only dinner that night it sucks even harder knowing that those days files are in the hands of war tonight but about that by following me on twitter at the resident.

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man over there i marinate you're watching do bust and these are some of the stories that we're tracking for you today. why is the justice department telling bankers to behave like a policeman coming right up then stephen can fellows on the program today now console is an economist and professor at the university of limerick in ireland and he sat down with me earlier today to discuss ireland greece portugal and the overall health of the eurozone and in today's big deal edward harrison and i are talking mortgages and the pre-crisis is known zombie lou let's get to.

our lead story today police say that the banks now when a banker becomes a banker they usually have to take any possible series of exams that allow them to serve the financial interests of their instead. clients however the completion of those exams does not repeat does not come with a badge and he law degree so why is the justice department asking bankers to act like policemen and judges well that's because of a new probe known as operation show point now operation choke point is asking banks to identify customers who they believe may be breaking the law they then would like the banks to choke off those customers by shutting down their access to financial

services and closing their accounts now while much of the investigation is being done in secret what we do know is that the program began in two thousand and thirteen as part of president obama's financial fraud enforcement task force which includes the f.d.i.c and consumer financial protection bureau the probe is trying to crack down on fraud used in payment systems by focusing on banks that service online payday lenders and other services deemed quote suspicious by the government services like get rich quick scheme sammy mission sales pharmaceutical sales home based charities and even as seen on t.v. businesses now collectively bank regulators have warned banks away from serving more than twenty two categories of business and while i agree that some of these businesses are indeed risky that doesn't justify preemptively declaring them all criminals and freezing their access to payment systems that's not ok now the justices premises for this program is a pretty simple one fraudsters can't operate without access to banking services and

so the agency is going after the infrastructure that questionable merchants use rather than the merchants themselves yet many of these merchants are legally licensed businesses licensed by the government that's like giving someone a driver's license and then having gas station attendants take away their car because it looks risky i mean it's completely completely ridiculous and while i'd just like schemers and swindler's as much as the next guy this is not the way to go after them. now look at the ropes kelly is chief analyst at agenda research specializing in the european central bank and euro area politics now he has built his reputation and client base through getting e.c.b. recalls quote wrecked now throughout the euro crisis has argued that politics trump

economics and believes that it's critical for investors to keep this in mind when investing now we spoke with morgan about ireland greece and the euro zone and here the first part of that interview earlier this month today however in the second part of the interview i started off by asking of portugal or italy for what italy for that matter with one hundred and thirty percent government debt to g.d.p. was a safe bet in terms of that default here's what larkin had to say. i think they're safe but in terms of the fall in the as much as we can see the short to medium term and i think that for the full to happen within the euro zone country we have to be back in a crisis and begin to tell you the euro zone there was anything especially when there was a crisis on it look at where european politicians our european policymakers are at the moment you see very easily the us was joined up thinking with that in your reactions to her toward is like you european central banks want is kind of thinking about doing a record or maybe take with us about a.b.s. purchases or maybe doing some should we but they're not committing to anything that

we see that's very much europe as a tell you in a place where there is no crisis well when the crisis called you just of like where the dragons are on t.v. introduction so if it does the markets can believe that so we have a crisis in the telly and where italian debt looks at is the default risk reason i tell you a dish you will get a policy response to be effective especially for a country as large as that and which is definitely to be. noted now looking at what do you make of the talk about deflation in europe. i think we're very it is much higher risk and i think that many policymakers are alone for i think the root of the enzi had been the head of the bundesbank what he says is deflation we have in europe is the good kind of deflation of such things this where he says the country's on the outskirts of europe they are in portugal italy spain a rebalancing their economies and what they're telling me says rebalancing the economy means their wages are going don't know which is going on are going up and so the inflation levels which leads to you have basic prices for

a country because in that we only post but it's what he says we've got we're not having as what to call second order effects and second order effects are where people put off purchases and that's flowed station which is and you can pull off approaches to morrow to morrow this whatever try to buy cheaper and he says we're not seeing that and i'm not quite sure how he's measuring that because it is quite hard to measure second order effect ahead of time and if your mission and how it's late it's too late because inflation is recession and so i think it is a risk and i think the risk we're going to have a banker aware of but again what ocean of crisis different risks to as well of a crisis they're not able to act as the size and as they should act and we should act i mean that they're not able to do a concert music program which should be the i'm glad that you bring that up and we very well to my next question i want to ask you if you think the e.c.b. should start quantitative easing and if so what kind of assets could should and what if by. i think it should i think the us. central banking is kind of

where we're expertise early and if you look at our own and global economy last several years we've had a couple of central banks through quantities who make them do it we've had their third reserve do it we haven't had the european central bank to any concert reason yes and yes we haven't seen the dollar collapse we haven't seen hyperinflation in the u.k. we haven't seen a lot of people expect that once every bank prints lots of money and the reason that hasn't happened is because financial intermedia intermediation works that people will try to trade across currencies very easily in the global economy the moment but in a situation where the bank when that isn't doing a more quantity of easy fed reserve is tapering and looking like on a path to stopping this conservation program sometime later on this year the e.c.b. may find as the situation we're asked to pick up some slack to do it on the reason because of the lack of supply of currency small around the world so it's a very complicated way of saying i think we should do cancel reason we should do it

soon in order to avoid a deflationary effect and then we should buy is a subject securities issued by banks because it's going sovereign debt is legally very difficult for them and lasting each do is spend six months for across room to rule on their challenge and some german economist so if they buy us a back securities from banks then that should force one into the bank lending channel which should. we should make people buy as many drugs as going for stocks and again you're risking shooting a credit bubble there but if the alternative is to have a deflationary spiral or go for the book with no. make sense now austerity has come under assault as a policy prescription in europe and i think much of this has to do with the fact that it adds to a deflationary impulse to the economy by its very nature since it's geared towards lowering prices and wages now the thinking is this will boost competitiveness for example in portugal exports are up to twenty four percent since two thousand and

eight now what's your view on a stair any as administered in the eurozone periphery. i think there are just thirty years of the idea of a study came from germany dear girl children two thousand and three called agenda twenty ten where it may sound strange but the lack of trends in the any of germany was the sick man of europe and what they did was they decided there was lower wages increased labor and train compete their way out of the whole mess on themselves and so that policy because it's viewed as being very successful in germany has been the prescription across europe and the problem prescription is that it works better and so on and i was not hers in the case our own was a very open economy so when you move into cause wages and cuts employment it happened very quickly and very easily because our interests put in very flexible labor laws back in one thousand nine hundred in countries that traditionally haven't had flexible labor laws which they get really critically austerity feels

much harder because they've catch up i suppose countries over what they're there to make up the lost sledge the ground that the rest of europe had ahead of them and the top of that also if we set a cost as well to a rate there are loads of peace and i think wish to increase exports argument is that there is a point to which are growing increasingly exports so much before europe euro zone countries are competing amongst each other so if you've germany benefaction carriage and send them to china and to the us if we achieve the cons which were composed of if we also manufactured love cares and if it's competing with germany the net benefit for the entire euro zone of austerity becomes negative now we're going to have been hearing a lot about banking union fiscal union and the likes of and some of the talk seems far fetched to me but i want to get your take where are the euro in the euro zone's institutional structures have been. the arizona just suckers i think are headed towards a disco. but they're going to i suppose pick those for us and the banking union is

the easiest one for them to do politically it's easier to do because banks are seen as the bad guys in europe because there was once a close a crash so it's allegedly for against banks and the stakes for banks like we've seen with the us all you could do in the moment and the single resolution mechanism is qualities of politicians the problem would come with fiscal union death as commune in place to transfer unions well and that means taxes paid in one country may be spent in different countries your area and that pollution is going to be very difficult so for that next step to happen we need the next crisis and as sure as the meat's know we will have more crisis in europe because that's what this is like works so when the next crisis come around the look more towards a fiscal union. that was lorcan a roach kelly a chip analyst at a gender research. time not very very quick break but stick around because when we

return i sit down with steve and console up to discuss ireland greece portugal and the overall health of the euro zone and then in today's big deal edward harrison and i are discussing the latest fashion from the world of mortgages is the adjustable rate mortgages the new black will find out after the break and before we go here are a look at some your close numbers of the bell stick around. and

i think. i would rather as questions to people in positions of power instead of speaking on their behalf and that's why you can find my show larry king now right here on our t.v. question lol. welcome back to the show now stephen can sell as the economist and senior lecturer at the

university of limericks kemi business school in ireland stephen studies the irish and european economies and has a keen interest in economic history specializing in economic theory financial economics and the history of economic thought he is also the author of four books on the economy and economics now household incomes in ireland fell by one fifth during the economic collapse there and a new report by the social market foundation in the u.k. says many in the middle class are one paycheck away from social ruin so i started by asking stephen if he agreed with economists such as david mcwilliams who argued that the middle class is being hit by higher taxes and huge mortgage debt take a look at what he had to say. yes it's certainly true what we've seen over the last couple of years is effectively a labor as they should of the last shift of the economy which was construction untradeable sector oriented and we've also seen huge drop in the average wage it's gone from thirty six thousand per capita to thirty three thousand so it's

a really large drop over time and of course we're the most indebted economy in europe or ratio of household up to disposable income is nearly two hundred percent so yeah i would agree with that statement actually two hundred percent while that's incredible and painful for the average you know irish citizen now irish finance minister michael noonan says austerity is still necessary now newman still wants two billion euro two billion euro in budget cuts and taxes for the next year now do you think austerity has helped our legacy of the crisis or as a deep in the crisis by salvaging middle class balance sheets. it's certainly deep in the provinces arland is often touted as the poster child for austerity in fact nothing could be further from the truth. we are a very small open economy which is allowed us if you like to cope with austerity much better than countries like greece but that doesn't necessarily mean that it was good for us at the time or that it was necessary what's actually happened is the government has stripped out a huge amount of demand from the system those by reducing its own expenditure and

also by increasing taxes on pretty much everybody it's done so in a relatively progressive way i have to say but overall has austerity been good for arland no unless you count credibility with the markets as. food on the table for the average middle class. while now i was bond yields and spreads are german as give me ira's are buying yelled and spreads to german bunds have collapsed so is ireland in the clear you know it's important to understand is this is really important statistic to understand is that when we're looking at our respondents we're not looking at people making a sound decision on the basis so macroeconomic fundamentals it's a good news story for arnold but the real reason that it's happening is people are chasing gielda low inflation low interest rate environment they want peripheral sovereign debt and are looks the least risky and that's what's driving the yields jan it's not necessarily a pat on the back for our policies while it's obviously welcome don't we don't

borrow it or don't it doesn't cost us as much to borrow we're still garren quite a bit. at the end of the day i don't think necessarily it's an indicator that we're in route health it's more of an indicator that what's happening to us at the moment is more of more evidence of the international financial markets and how they're reacting to the crisis. ok now stephen the e.c.b. is pressuring the central bank of ireland to sell the government bonds and swap for the infamous infamous promissary notes that it used to hold which were used to bailout the irish banks but if the irish central bank sells these bonds the coupon payments would be lost to the central bank of ireland and can't be returned to the irish treasury now do you think it's fair for the e.c.b. to pressure ireland this way given the burdens already heaped on to the state by the bank bailouts well there are pressures and there are pressures that you see if he uses these this kind of monotonic language from time to time i think it will continue to repeat this until the promissory notes are repaid in fifty years i

don't think it's that pressure that we're going to see being applied to the irish state at the moment it doesn't necessarily seem like it should be enforced now for example it could be a tourist in five years' time that could keep repeating the warning until arlen's balance sheets are in such a state that it can actually repay these things and not take. a large hit to its balance sheet but it doesn't necessarily need to take today and. maybe it won't be in the next couple of years i think this is more i warning to other sovereign state might want to engage in the type of monetary plan and say. ok interesting now our own subjective corporate tax was approximately ten point eight percent over the last ten years and that is very low it's attracted a lot of us pharmaceutical and technology companies but there has been criticism definitely not without criticism so do you think ireland should raise corporate taxes to prevailing euro zone rates. oh it depends i mean it depends what you what you're talking about in terms of the effective rate of corporation tax i'm sure

you'll find if you do the same study of france the actual amounts of tax that a company let's say google pays it's quite low as well what i would like to see happen in the irish case is a reformation and a harmonization of the tax rules and treaties that underpinned many of the time many of the taxation approaches that we have so for example it should not be the case at apple as a country as a as a as a company can how the holding company apple international that is not resident in any country and yet read registered in ireland so that's not ok you can't have a company with twenty billion euros sitting on its balance sheet. you know effectively paying no tax to the irish or any other taxpayer that's not acceptable in dutch shouldn't happen and the o.e.c.d. working group that was established to take care of this should do the last thing i was asking what do you make of the talk about deflation in europe. it's

a serious threat deflationary spiral start when people start talking about deflation effectively but the most important thing is general falls the price level are typically typically correlated with drops and producer price indices which we're seeing they're also correlated with low levels of aggregate demand growth which we're seeing and they're also karman with increasing levels of inventories and businesses which again we're seeing so across the euro zone of particular peripheral countries i think it's a big worry actually not not for secular stagnation but for deflation where you have we where you have people switching from profit maximisation to debt as ation as it becomes richard could call it or someone like high minsky would say effectively it's a long term balance sheet repair mechanism and if you think of it the e.c.v. is the key playmaker in europe it can't do it right money printing because of article one trick two three of the master treaty the fiscal compact start stops european nation states just building roads and just increasing government

expenditure that way and so really you have to look at innovative off balance sheet options so effectively q.e. and the question is can this work number one and number two what price do you set these assets asked so you know it's pretty easy to to buy a buyer sovereign debt but you know can you can you really. measure and accurately price irish commercial paper if you're the european central bank so quantity is not the issue it's quality as an e.c.v. board member talked about recently and therefore the price so that's it that's a big issue going forward and it's not clear the e.c.b. as i do the policy commitment or the actual tools to do this job so deflation is a real risk from. that was stephen kinzer lot a calmest and senior lecturer at the kemi business school in limerick ireland time now for today's big deal.

big deal sound with edward harrison my partner in crime here and today we're talking about mortgages and the return of the pre-crisis loans on the loans on me so we're not talking about well i'm talking about the adjustable rate mortgage now these are one of the main culprits during the housing bubble and now they're back in vogue adjustable rate mortgages offer a row one initial rate of to borrowers but after a fixed period these rates can rise now we haven't even crawled our way back from the phrase this and these things are making a comeback this time around the banks however they claim the things are a bit different lenders say that they have focused their lending on good beds those with strong credit who are using loans to take out jumbo mortgages instead of subprime borrowers jumbo mortgages are those valued above four hundred seventeen thousand dollars so in other words mortgages for the bridge that's what we're talking about so what's going on here and i want to ask you how much of

a spike have we seen in these adjustable rate mortgages recently we haven't seen a spike because interest rates haven't gone up so basically you know there are two things that are going on here one there is the fact that you can get an adjustable rate mortgage say for two point three seven verses a normal mortgage for more than one point above if you look at the spread in terms of the differential of a million dollar home million dollar loan you're looking at one hundred dollars differential between an adjustable rate mortgage and a normal conventional thirty year mortgage and what i say just with mortgage i'm thinking of a five year adjustable rate that resets every year so really that's what the difference is for the bar. the question for the seller that is for the. mortgage company is about. how much they get in terms of credit risk and they're still looking at only really good credits they haven't gone down into the subprime

market yet except in auto loans with regard to housing we're still looking at. in terms of these sorts of mortgages this is very interesting to me and i have to ask you what is the bank's thinking here now why are they basically you know going back to this area of lending that caused so much trouble the first go around why would they want to do that it was a risk in some turbulent. other than the obvious but like anything beyond what i think it really boils down to what the borrower is getting in terms of the differential that. i laid out you know that they are getting you know twenty five twenty percent less twenty twenty five percent less for their mortgage and so that they the increase is driven by the borrower who's i'd say sixty percent of the mortgages over the in the jumbo category are now in the arm type but you know for the lender what they really want is they want to get an ultra prime candidate and

the ultra prime candidate is going to be positive in a number of different ways wong they're looking not just to lock them in on mortgages but they're also looking at the huge product portfolio that they have they can get in terms of financial planning and all sorts of other things so this is a segue into that and what's more is that these prime mortgages candidates do not default in the same way that subprime does and therefore they want to lock in there and i think that we're still seen within the you know within the space of lending that there's a reluctance to go down into the subprime area and people still there's a bifurcation there within the household sector mean the show. i just think the idea that it's called a subprime mortgage meaning the low prime you know he generally don't want to lend out it's in the title you know i want to move on because this isn't the only troubling news to come out of the mortgage market now apparently borrowers of jumbo

mortgages are highly desired so much so that rich bars can get a better rate than middle class homeowners on a fixed thirty year mortgage so before going to class bars would be able to get a mortgage that was about two to three points below the rate of jumbo mortgages but that's no longer the case so it what happened here and our middle class bars able able to get mortgages that all of these days with these these new policies that they're kind of employing we're good it's difficult to get a mortgage because at the end of the day the restrictions are tired and they were before because banks are definitely looking to husband their capital but when you look at what's going on also in terms of fannie and freddie fannie and freddie. lost lots of money and word national laws as a result and they're looking to their capital and they've increased fees and those fees are being passed on to mortgage ease that means that you when you take out a mortgage that's a conventional mortgage you get a pass through of the increased fees that come from fannie and freddie jumbos are

fannie and freddie and therefore they don't have that pass through and that makes the. cost less for the conventional mortgage and again you do have the conventional mortgages you know the average credit score is going to be lower than they are for a jumbo which is the bigger risk so you prefer to run out more money at a higher rate of return potentially going to go ahead as always thank you we'll talk about this again because it is interesting stuff and effects a lot of people that's all for now check out all the segments on you tube you tube dot com sized room by starting a facebook same spiel you can tweet out has made at edward and it's from all of us here thanks for watching catch next time check out.

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larry king knowledge show rather all week we're joined by sons of anarchy in creative purpose souther my secret to my success is that i hire people who are a lot more talented than me and. i think to really have a vision and to follow through you can't lock yourself in the ivory tower and you really have to be involved in all aspects plus the man who brought you the hit show last call to cues was really i think an attitude particularly in two thousand and four when that show started in network television that you had to kind of go for the lowest common denominator and last didn't do that last actually respected the intelligence of an audience and i think that the audience in turn responded because that showed the show challenge them in ways that you have to find that alchemy of a writer's room that can actually work together to produce really good scripts and then you need really good actors to deliver your material plus one has to ask why

all the teams they'll have meetings and stuff but at the end of the day it's all just a desperate cry for attention really larry all next on larry king now. we welcome to larry king now kurds are one of the most successful people in television writer and. good for douceur for the shield wrapping up the seven final season of sons of anarchy airing this tamarod have bags while developing the best of execution of that's not all he's the screenwriter for the upcoming film self starring jay gillen one of my favorite people do you think you're responsible for this cable revolution but the shield sort of. i think that. the shield came along at a time when you know that when cable dramas were really on the rise and when we

premiered on that station then we were there first the original program on f.x. on f.x. and. and no one really knew could or could see where it was going we knew we had something different. and something special and obviously and john john lennon graff the president right it's you with and that were two of the most successful show of the shield and sons of anarchy right yeah i and i was lucky enough i was i started out as a staff writer on the shield and finished as an executive producer and and shawn ryan who created that show was it was a great mentor for me and. and really you know and i love the show i stayed all seven seasons and clearly i don't like change because i'm doing sons and then my my neck shows that f.x. to do so good text epics i am i think to be a breaking bad walking dead madmen without the shield well that's

a good question i think that it definitely helped open the doors for shows that had that kind of content and tone you know the same way i think you know. the sopranos you know i don't know if there would have been a sons of anarchy without a sopranos in terms of people being able to embrace and outlaw you know hero like this i love lucy led to sitcom exact know exactly how the ideas sons of anarchy come about the most and you came around it was. well i did i did i wrote in today that i want a motorcycle club but not what was right right come about you know i was finishing up on the shield in as we do we look for other projects and i've always had a fascination with the subculture i love bikes i came across country my first time here on motorcycle and and i was lucky enough i hooked up with john winston in art linson who are five feature producers and they were trying to do

a feature in the motorcycle motorcycle world and we started talking and. and and they sort of gave me carte blanche to do to get a name because from brando's the wild ones or is that too often not i think all that it was a while movie i think all that stuff you know feeds the subculture i think you know and. and that's really where my research began it began you know looking at you know the things that you know the how these vets were coming back from world war one and why world war two and and you know so when the club's first started they were just really a lot of work here are you enjoying it or you and me and. i think for me you know some of it is the economics of the production model that after like seven seasons it starts to eat itself but. i also feel like i've modeled the myth ology

in a way. that i knew i could tell seven seasons worth of story and i think we're getting to that place and sort of know when it's new you have to know and i love the fact that people hate that it's ending and the fans want more i mean you know you know you always leave them wanting more of it. don't do an hour show do forty five minutes that's right you tweeted that you want aaron paul from breaking bad to appear. this season happened you know i like like the fabulous world of twitter is i was i did do these q. and a's on nights on tuesday nights when the show would normally be airing if it were airing and somebody asked me if there were an actor i'd love to work with and and i said you know i love aaron paul i think he's a great guy and is and. you know i'd like to work not with just talented people but with people what is going to happen i don't know you know he actually tweeted back

it at one point saying that made a joke saying that. you know he's waiting for it to happen and and you know who knows will say charlie hunnam. you leave that the role of christian grey in fifty shades of grey right right stepped away from the part but did all the media attention that that affects sons of enemies charlie's you know i love charlie i think ultimately and i don't this is just speculation because charlie is a really private guy and i respect that and but you know i think that what happened is that the the idea of that movie became bigger than the character in the work and everything else and that's really not who charlie is and i think ultimately that's why he stepped away rebuild both i did not read that movie that i you know your beautiful wife gave us ago was she if you care so deliberately did she have to try and. i actually she actually inside i will say she actually inspired the role of

gemma not that she's as fierce as a mother as gemma is a good you know i always been impressed with katie as a mom she's an amazing mommy because we have two step kids from her previous marriage of hers and we have a seven year old together and i'm told you get creative in using sexual terms and curse words you sort of have invented curse words right if you can you could give me some. man. i don't know if i've invented curse words were essentially i can't use can i curse here i can't use the word on on the basic cable. so. jesus christ is sort of become. but there was a we had this whole season where we had. porn there was there in the porn industry and and i wanted to use terms like you know donkey punch and all this you know and

and i kept getting shut down and so i had to make up my own terms and they were would we do what we did like anal raindance which just sounds horrible and i just you know s. and p. was like i don't know where that is and you know so the ones i end up making up always sound worse than the ones that they won't let us on christians who prefer. to jesus christ yet you know what's at a certain point we were getting we were getting notes from above about you know you know can you cut down on j.c. i can just see and you know i was like well if you give me something you know you're developing a prequel to the sons of anarchy we'd like to yeah there's i mean when father we've been. significant we've had significant discussions and that you know the mythology is that the first nine were these first nine members and we reference them in documents and story and and i'd like to do an origin

piece of these guys coming together so now what is this coming measure on f.x. and i actually have that's where else was the best third execution or. that's mine hopefully my next my next series there remind grazier of them with bright and sweet god ron howard not yet. brian brian and i got together really the same way myself in the instance did for this project and he was. asked a native with the idea of a medieval executioner and kind of gave me carte blanche to come up with the story in the world and so it is it's about a story of many you know medieval executioner and takes place in the fourteenth century in the u.k. and i'm actually had over to london in a couple weeks to start looking at some locations and stuff so you know what katie and i probably will i probably will for self to. not at this point

but you never know what makes a good executive producer. i think you ultimately have to balance the. the creative input in terms of your vision. with with a lot of people skills and i don't think. you know i think to really have a vision and to follow through you can't lock yourself in the ivory tower and say you know somebody else do it i think you just really have to learn is on at that yes you really have to be involved in all aspects so poor going to be your first teacher hopefully yeah yeah it'll be written you know i refer to my future career as my virtual career because i i write stuff and then i never know what happens as i've been this happened so many minutes as it's been hanging around the why was i remember supposed i wrote it for marshall and and that didn't happen and i did a couple passes and. and i think they're going to have somebody else do another

pass because i don't have the time right now but. jake we got jake and and one who's a dear friend and just a great great director is directing by there and it's yeah he's trying to right now and jake a really great actor and really committed and it's hard to get off the ground a film or t.v. show in my experience features are much more difficult is just one of the hardest thing in the world is to give a movie made yeah yeah yeah yeah. and you see and then you know the irony of like you just see so many bad movies out there you just go that's the one they decided to make i'm told you wrote an article for slate dot com. about google stance on copyright laws what in essence was that about. you know it's got it's a whole other interview but it's you know there's just something going on right now with google and in terms of. really slowly trying to chip away at copyright laws

that protect artists kind of deal with no chip away in that they really under the guise of of hey we all deserve a free internet they are slowly spending millions and millions of dollars each year to undermine the copyright laws that protect artists and it's sort of a little bit of a david and goliath thing right now but it's we're trying to sort of wake up the creative community and say we'll prevail i don't know you know we were slow to lead gaining some ground but i'm just trying to and and and look the reality of it is i'll be ok but i look at my kids who you know want to be actors and writers and singers and songwriters and and have desires to live off of their creative content and and i worry about them because you know if we continue this way they won't be protected in there won't be any kind of you know. economic model to protect

them once a day like for you know if you've got the execution and you've got the south pole sons of anna get pretty cold the shield is gone we did what it was you know you bounce all these balls you know it's a good producers do that though yeah i can handle many many you you sort of have to learn i mean i have a great and very talented staff i mean not to sound you know overly. self deprecating but i you know my my my secret to my success is that i hire people who are a lot more talented than me and. you know i know what ted turner is philosophy was i just i just do and i one has to ask. while the teams you know they'll have meeting and stuff but as a i said earlier at the end of the day it's all just a desperate cry for attention really larry but when it started what i was i started

late i didn't get my first tattoo till i was almost thirty and. and then i just you know i love i love body or like a wife likes it but the wife likes i made the wife get a tattoo and as many as though not as many as those and she's actually you know she's in the process of getting some more and you know and i unfortunately the hard part is now i have an eighteen year old son quite a tattoo and what do you say thank you very much sir kurt sutter i want to thank my guests kurds to be sure to watch the final season of sons of anarchy on f.x. this september and they have heard chances to your social media questions check out our show blog kings things dot or adoptee b. when we come back we're joined by the man who brought to be you have successful series last place to call us.

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for your friend post a photo from a vacation you can't afford. to different. the boss repeats the same old joke of course you like. your ex-girlfriend still tends to rejection poetry keep. ignoring. the free post only what really matters. to your facebook news feed. we're going to larry king now our special guest calls mchugh's the emmy golden globe and peabody award winning writer and executive producer he was named time magazine's annual list of the hundred most influential people in the world in two thousand and ten along with damon lindelof he served as showrunner executive producer and head writer for all six seasons of the hit t.v.

show lost currently he's the writer and exact producer of bates motel airing on mondays at ten pm on a and a and the upcoming the strain which will premier on f.x. in july you were pre-med right i was indeed what changed you what left you the what the medicine why did the world of medicine lose you well i sed i was first i really didn't like the pre-med classes that i was taking and my mother saw that i was losing interest so she had me scrub in for a surgery with my uncle and he was doing a test on a bypass operation on a very obese person and there was the smell of cauterised flesh and he was pulling organs out of the incision and i fainted and that pretty much was the end and a medicine for it to get it hollywood. when i was in college the filmmakers of the movie airplane came i went to harvard they came to harvard to do a preview screening the movie and i met them and i had never met anyone who worked on a movie before and just a light bulb went off in my head i loved writing and i basically thought well why

not do this did you think of falling then into comedy airplane was one of the more hysterical movies ever yeah i mean i i i i kind of considered myself not that funny oh i thought drama writing was the better place to go i started in the movie business and then worked my way into t.v. drama until now you were done lethal weapon right i helped develop lethal weapon to lethal weapon three and indiana jones in the last reset my my former partner jeffrey bum was the writer of record of those movies always your entrance break. i basically got i made a movie about when i was in college i road crew and i made a documentary about rowing and i sort of took that as my calling card i came to l.a. and i got a job as the assistant to head of one of the movie studios basically running errands for only getting organic dog food for his japanese a key to getting the windows tense on his car buying bagels at a certain place for him it was glamorous you view co showrunner on

a lot of projects right how does a co showrunner or you know television what i love about television as an art form is that it's really collaborative and i think that. the essence of what makes television successful is when you can put a really great collaborative team together and i like that creative environment as well like you and you and damon you coal co show ran last right you know it was really a situation where we had to come to an agreement and i was i think one of the reasons last was so good we the bar for us was. is this idea good enough that we both of us think it's cool and if it wasn't we would keep reworking into reworking until we both actually thought it was worthy tell me about the conception how last came about laws came about actually before i was involved there was an executor made lloyd braun at a.b.c. who wanted to do sort of a scripted version of the show survivor and he took that idea worked out a little bit got the director j.j. abrams involved and j.j.

in turn got damn and my partner on the show involved they wrote a pilot made the pilot you're involved in the pie was not all in the pot and then j.j. left to go do mission impossible three with tom cruise and i came in to run the show with them and. why did last work. i think last worked because it was different because i think it broke a lot of the rules that people said you couldn't break in television like a huge and sprawling cast of people who had done really bad things intentionally ambiguous storytelling really complex mythologically based or telling all these things were things that you know there was really i think an attitude particularly in two thousand and four when i just started in network television that you had to kind of go for the lowest common denominator and last didn't do that last actually respected the intelligence of an audience and i think that the audience in turn responded because the chose the show challenge them in ways that i think were interesting bands were very involved or a that when you made your fans they contacted you they were yeah you know i think what happened was there was this this show that came we made

a show that as i said was a mystery and intentionally ambiguous and so that it raised a lot of questions at the same time social media came into existence just concurrently. there was the rise of social media so there was this new mechanism by which people could communicate and then we had our show which was very baffling and mysterious and the two just kind of dovetailed it wasn't anything that was predictable but that's i think what contributed to the fan interaction level of the show that had you said you knew the layout of the show pretty much from the beginning we do things evolve yes you know i think the creativity doesn't come to you in sort of one fell swoop you know i think we had some of the basic ideas of the show in place and but obviously over time you get more ideas and those ideas evolve than you know it's like a road trip you know you might know that you're going to end up in new york but along the way you leave yourself room if you want to go to wall drug or take a rollback road or take the expressway to stay you know we left ourselves all those

kinds of latitude and by the time we got to new york we were in rich by the journey and ways that really inform the way the show ended so i think all of we we ended it we did something that was unprecedented the time in our television history in the third season of the show we went a.b.c. and said we want to end our show now in television you know the way television works you dislike the pony express you know shows you ride the show until it drops dead underneath you in our case we we had this mythology and we didn't know if it had the last two seasons or nice seasons and it was really hard to write the show so we went to the network and said look we need to know how much longer we have to tell our story and we agreed on three more seasons of the show and that allowed us to sort of tell the story we wanted to from beginning to end the ever regret that now not at all what do you think turned shows like resurrection revolution believe . following the trend of last trying to mystify us i think that i think that we opened the door for john was storytelling on the networks which was something that

was kind of dead there was no science fiction there was really heavily serialize storytelling you know wasn't really prevalent i thought so i think our show open the door but i also think that new technologies open the door the fact that people could d.v.r. shows that people could buy them on d.v.d. ultimately get them all and then you know you had this opportunity where people could catch up you know the networks were terrified that if you made a show and someone missed an episode they would go away but all of a sudden you had ways to actually watch the show other than just on the network or they shouldn't show i think a good show runner is someone who has sort of two sides to their brain one side is you have to be very creative on demand you have to this kind of massive prodigious amount of creative material has to sort of flow from your head because you're making like eight ten or twenty two little mini movies in a given year but then you also have to manage this operation you know in the case

of lost we have four hundred twenty five people working for us so there are many people that kind of help both the right brain left brain thing where you can sort of manage an enterprise that spending millions of millions of dollars and also be very creative that will nuts you have to be a little nuts. the idea of the right group is trying to apply the collective brain power of five writers to a problem i suppose to one writers really the finest are to making television we have an all female ram except for how to and i think you're right he said and i'm here the writer's room kind of goes all day long terry and i are in the writers' room a lot of them were these guys and i'm carrying on and work out. coming off and catching on entering that family now is not fair on this story but when the idea that why did you take the great movie psycho we'd all these years and come up with a bates motel that was a sequel to cycle ride there were

a couple of sequels which were not very successful right so why now bates motel well i think basically the idea was that the idea that really intrigued me was norma bates was one of the most iconic characters in movie history but we knew nothing about her i mean basically in the movie psycho she is we never met or we never meet or what we said we see or she is dead and stuff like a chair and she's gotten so who was norma bates and so the idea of sort of reinventing this mythology was was very exciting and what we did was basically decided that it was that we decided we'd do it as a contemporary prequel so we kind of shut ourselves of the baggage of the movie by making the show set in the here and now and we have your farmigo this amazing actress playing norma bates and she's actually kind of lovable heartbreaking charming crazy and we really realize that you know i think the expectation from the original psycho movie is that norman bates was this evil shrew who paraded her kid

into becoming a serial killer but in fact she loves her son to death and he you know maybe it's in his d.n.a. that he's going to become this guy and she's desperately trying to keep him from becoming the guy that he's destined to be willing to go on do then she will have him grow up it will go on to eventually intersect with some version of that guy we saw in the movies so it's a tragedy and the thing is if you went out like a lot of the best stories are tragedies shakespeare knew that jim cameron you know titanic is a tragedy it was it was so you know i think that this is a really great mother son tragedy here also are going on the what i'm told is a highly anticipated series the strain with modal toro tell me about that. guillermo del toro and a guy named chuck hogan who wrote the book that was the basis for the movie the town wrote this trilogy a body that will be that redefines the sort of vampire genre this is not vampires like you've ever seen them and that was why i wanted to do it you know we've seen the sparkly romantic brooding love lorn vampires these are scary creatures that

shoot six foot stingers out of their mouths and suck you dry like a capri sun and you know it's just it's a completely different take on the vampire genre but it's rooted in the actual all roma romanian mythology of vampire as a telling when it's coming this summer in july most likely from f.x. like other vampires shows are going to kill off the people every week. no will kill vampires for sure and he stood on the version of the story in the strain is it stars corey stoll who you might have seen in house of cards who's a fantastic actor and david bradley who was in all of the harry potter movies and it is as i said it's sort of it looks at this mosaic of new york city as this train is that america is set in new york city and this sort of strain of empire ism starts to overrun the city and it basically completely topples the social order and

we have a character played by kevin duran who's a rat catcher who is kind of a low status at the beginning of the story but very high status when you know his skill set is now a highly highly valued it's all on the page right that's where good shows come from what's written i think good television shows. you know i used to believe that it was that it was all the writing and over time i really realized that it is the writing and you know i have to give you more credit to the actors than i used to give i mean i feel like if you have a great actors delivering your stuff it makes all the difference i mean i love the show true detective that was just on in. it was great but it was made really great because they had woody harrelson and matthew mcconaughey playing the leads and i think you have to find that alchemy of a writer's room that can actually work together to produce really good scripts and then you need really good actors to deliver your material or their specialty writers write is write good vampires or is writing right now there are definitely

different types of writers who are good at anything else it's a little bit like assembling a baseball team you know you when you put a writers' room together you are looking for a combination of talents you might have someone who's a good who's a good pitcher but in in television parlance that someone who's actually good at coming up with ideas in the room and throwing them out for the room to digest and turn into stories you might have a good draft writer you might have someone who's good at comedy you might have someone who's going to dialogue there's also it's different voices that come together to make a good t.v. show thanks and you great on is that and i guess cotton cues the show diskettes bates motel on any mondays at ten pm and look for the strain this july and ethics and she got caught in a sense is to our little game of view only new on our show blog kings things dot or a t.v. remember you can find me on twitter against things we'll see you next time.

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how's it going folks i'm out in martin and this is the break in the set well last week a texas family saw a huge victory over fracking the park family which was awarded three million dollars up they were flipped and with illnesses caused by a fracking operation taking place on the outskirts of their ranch according to lisa part of the family experience quote nosebleeds vision problems knowledge rashes and blood pressure issues now considering how the fracking industry has denied such problems are caused by the practice this case is a landmark decision and a huge win for fracking opponents however it seems clear that the family has already been so severely damaged by the drilling operation that a monetary settlement seems too little too late and considering that fracking and

jack's over seven hundred chemicals into the earth including known carcinogens there's no way to know how exposure to these wells will fact the pars later on in their lives or for that matter anyone else who lives near fracking wells so if you believe that the real victory will come when families aren't getting nosebleeds to the exposure of fracking chemicals in the first place then join me and let's break . the little league games are a. very large atlantic. that are back with center their little. league.

little. league. how often do you travel by air to see your friends and family once a year once a month every week well can you imagine if one day you try to board a plane to see your dying grandmother or your wife only to find out that you've been placed on a no fly list is exactly the case for four american muslim men all of whom have been banned from air travel are being flagged by u.s. intelligence why would they flag you might ask we're going through now they have no criminal record they're alleging a reason that's far more insidious than even being profiled in an unprecedented lawsuit against the u.s. government these four men are claiming that they were placed on the no fly list by the f.b.i. as a punishment because they refused to become informants for the agency yep spiner neighbors on behalf of the f.b.i.

or never see your family again sounds fair right but one of the plaintiffs in the lawsuit a wise should add found out that he had been on the list for two years after attempting to fly to pakistan to visit his dying ninety three year old grandmother according to the job after he inquired about why he was on the list he was approached by f.b.i. agents who interrogated him and then asked him to work for them as an informant and . an interview with ars technica asks quote i do not want to become an informant but the government says that i must be in order to be taken off the no fly list how can the government tell me that the only way i can see my family again is if i turn my back on my community the stories sadly i code by the three other plaintiffs. who hasn't seen his wife and two years because he has been able to travel to his home country of afghanistan here he is describing what the experience has been like for him. it's very. frustrating

and you feel helpless. no one will tell you how you can get off. it has a profound impact on people's lives and. a big impact on my life and my family. and so this is one of the reasons that i you know i wanted to come was to the day or maybe a lot of people are afraid to speak. this loss it was the last resort for these people in fact in trying to clear their names for well over a year to no avail they have guys declined consistently all their requests and tragically their case is far from unique according to u.s. government's own estimates there's already twenty thousand people on the no fly list and it's growing by the day in fact this same lawsuit alleges that the f.b.i. places thousands of individuals with no criminal records on the list as a way to intimidate them into serving as moles is i guess in the self fulfilling

war on terror if you can't beat the bad guys force the innocent ones to join you. in the twenty first century if you are decisions are harder for new parents than whether or not to circumcise their son now male circumcision as a practice has been around for over a millennia rooted in ancient religion and custom but any of the practice or procedure that's been practiced for thousands of years should raise questions over whether a place that has a modern society because of people's various upbringings religious backgrounds and manhood this topic continues to stir up controversy and debate everywhere nonetheless it's a conversation that needs to be had personally as a female i never gave male circumcision a second thought so i decided to speak with george and chapman and intact america

to hear her side of the story i first asked her one circumcision jump from being a religious to a mainstream surgical procedure. most americans do not understand that circumcision was started in the nineteenth century and timeline but most are saying. it's. circumcision. already and doctors in england and america. as a way to stop boys from pleasuring themselves it was also promoted to cure all kinds of melodies and you're going to laugh but this is all extremely well documented in the literature circumcision was claimed to prevent your working loss' sore to cure it to prevent insanity or to cure it. to prevent or cure a hip dysplasia to fix crossed eyes of course to prevent that ariel

disease that's that claim has recurred over the years and then finally it was kind of brought into as a way. of keeping boys clean as as they put it and that that was really a function of the fact that in the early twentieth century. populations immigrating from southern europe were men tended to be intact and they were poor people living in. poorer areas in urban areas of the country so being circumcised was associated with poverty and being i'm sorry being intact was associated with poverty and big circumcised was associated with people who were affluent enough to have their babies in the hospitals where doctors would immediately cut off the evil for skin from lease or newborn babies so it really became entrenched as a medical procedure during

a time of extreme ignorance about bodily functions and the causes of various illnesses and then it became a routine obstetrical intervention and ultimately a great moneymaker for the american medical profession let's talk about the arguments that are maintained to support circumcision a george and i like hygiene and disease prevention. well there's never been there's never been any proof at all of circumcision prevents any diseases the latest claim of course for hiv the is completely bogus american cemeteries are full of circumcised boys and men who died from a it's. cutting off a body part a healthy normal body part doesn't prevent you from getting any kind of sexually transmitted disease. hygiene arguments is is

also both its number one. and washed body parts have never been proven to threaten the world order or because disease in and of themselves pretty much somebodies own personal preference as to how much or how little they wash we also learn to keep all kinds of other body parts clean so we wear it and brush our teeth and wow to wash our backside. when we go to the graph here and why this. this shuttle part of a man's anatomy is supposed to be so unbelievably threatening and so dirty is is really kind of mystifying when you think about it women's genitals are just as complicated as men's and just as difficult to wash and there's you know nope it pushes me that the states for for shaving down women so that's also that way with and let's talk about the arguments of course against circumcision i think the main one is the loss of sensitivity and males pinas has this been proven sure it has or are you really you know if if you told me there are no studies done about what

cutting off people saying or tips whether it's proven that they will sensitivity i would say you really need to do a study that in heading up the most sensitive part of your fingers makes you lose sensitivity of course you do cutting up the most sensitive part of a man's penis of course it reduces sensitivity the arguments that say that it does not affect men sensitivity though a guess of course the very reason why super circumcision was promoted from my monitor use the jewish philosopher thirteenth century full century i'm sorry. promoted circumcise said that circumcision was in fact a good thing because it kept men and women from focusing so much on pfizer in the nineteenth century they were cut off boys for skins in order to reduce the pleasure from masturbation so of course reduces sensitivity but but the even if it did

and even if it did prevent. to some degree or reduce certain diseases that a boy or a man could get later in life none of that is a justification for strapping down a healthy normal newborn child and having part of his body i mean no medical institution in the developed world actually endorse is circumcision as far as i read and most countries as children are not circumcised why do doctors still suggest it to american parents or not and if they're too i guess many of them too many of them do i think there are several reasons one is it's a terrible thing two people don't like to admit that what they've been doing for so long is a really bad thing the second thing is many doctors most american doctors at this time are probably were probably circumcised themselves as children and it's hard for them to think that maybe that was something that was not only unnecessary but bad and the third reason is that in the us doctors make the more procedures that

they do the more money they make so circumcision has become a time honored way for obstetricians and and other doctors pediatricians to make money hospitals make money off of it doctors make money off of it medical supply industry makes money off of it and now there's a cosmetic industry that takes stolen for skins because they are stolen from their rightful owners and makes the anti-wrinkle cream and other cosmetic products out of it so it has it is an industry for sure and maybe boys are paying more price every day and american men are paying the price as they get older and they are living with only a part of their natural anatomy horrifying statement there and realize that they're actually using them for skin for cosmetic reasons georgann it really barbaric practice it's time that it you know more knowledge is is told about it thank you so much georgann chap an executive director intact america. next up i'll tell you

what's been going on in the world and all the world's been focused on clive and bonnie stick around. please. please please. please technology innovation all the list of elements from around russia. the future are covered. i. tell folks if you haven't been watching the corporate media for the last month let me fill you in on what you've missed that last malaysian airliner still lost avril of venus still relevant and her new video sucks and yes quite often bunny a rancher from nevada who lives out the middle of nowhere has probably never seen

a black person as. ignorant that and stop the race baiting mainstream media from turning the entire bundy ranch situation into a left vs right side show. breaking things we just received video from a press conference on a new firestorm involving the veterans your club and bundy why did they sure will put all those agents why did they show up with all those firearms and so much firepower maybe they knew a little bit more about this guy than john hannity mr bundy i see in your arms that you were holding a dead calf what happened i want to talk to you about the bee and produce a little bit i don't know if you have announced me that question this morning what is your hike up a dead cat would you wonder if negroes weren't better off as slaves are you racist . going to spend the better part of last week a latching on to clive and bunnies ignorant remarks leaping on the opportunity to make fun of fox news and anyone who would criticize the bureau of land management as being racist by proxy and of course what this did was little more than

a highlight the media's own bias when it comes to what's truly worth covering so what do we all miss all the focus was on monday's views about welfare first starters fifty five people were sas and by drone in yemen over easter weekend but don't worry going to officials who are all terrorists and don't deserve a right to defend themselves nothing to see here and there is the horrifying tragedy that just took place in nigeria where two hundred and thirty young schoolgirls were loaded into vehicles at gunpoint by al-qaeda linked militant group boko haram in the middle. tonight this isn't the first time the group has targeted nigeria's youth according to human rights watch and boko haram routinely attacks schools and actively recruits children and this particular group has a disturbing history of abducting young girls and women to be kept as wives and servants for its members so in the wake of the brutal terrorist attacks that took place in the country earlier this month killing at least seventy five people and

now this latest act of violence against helpless girls one might wonder why nigeria is missing on the m.s.m. but it's not just countries in africa that are being ignored meanwhile back in the states the federal communications commission officially killed net neutrality finally making it easier for corporations to control what you have access to on the internet that's right the f.c.c. announced new regulations last week implementing a pay to play two tiered internet which allows giant companies to make deals with i as piece of their content is streamed faster according to huffington post the law is quote create two lanes on the internet fast superhighways that big tech companies going forward in a bumpy back road or less fortunate websites to well and what a shock the corporate controlled media owned by just a few massive corporations that have cut deals with cable writers doesn't seem to think the internet monopolies in the death of the neutral internet is worth

covering i wonder why because really in the grand scheme of things it's easier to talk about conspiracy theories regarding a missing airliner and to talk about the actual corporate conspiracy that has taken away our internet freedom and to that end what's more racist. remarks or the massacre of fifty five yemenis with zero trial and no due process just because they might be brown and of military age you tell me. many of you may remember the viral video campaign kone one hundred twelve yes the poster with democrats and republicans and a piece of on the one thing we can all unite on well it turns out that when everything was said and done the one thing that was agreed upon was that this video was little more than a promotional stunt for the organization that made it so full of exaggerated claims

and misguided efforts however even though even two years later obama's still sending us troops to aid the effort to hunt down torrijos war criminal joseph coney this in addition to the hundreds of millions of dollars the u.s. government gives that you've gone and government every year but if you think that financially backing a brewer to hunt down a warlord is counterintuitive these types of operations in the guise of humanitarianism are par for the course in africa likely to my next guest is able to give a different side of the story the name is jane bosman she's a former hollywood comedian who went to uganda to hunt for joseph coney years before the coney campaign existed and since then she's been on a mission to tell the truth with a style of writing that's been referred to as agony comedy bussmann is also the author of the book a journey to the dark heart of nameless unspeakable evil she joined me earlier and i first asked her why she first decided to go to uganda. made

pretty clear to me straight away how competitive the useful industry is and i didn't have a single qualification beyond high school. so i thought well i can just write about stuff all right about just getting the story and i ended up sort of blundering there right about the story but it's such a good at this whole pentecost this piece and i think. sort of didn't tell him any of this so he quite naturally left by the time i got so i'm not stuck in. six weeks and there's nothing to do with this guy you know it wasn't also a love letter. so i just by he investigated. the story and because i had no money and i was living on the ground the story that i came across was a way different story than what i would have been a real from a correspondent with somewhere to stay and money to live right right well you know you said that you you kind of found out about those who come to you googled who's the most evil person the world i mean bush dick cheney and their offices are right here why go all the way to ground zero when you can to get in front of kissinger so

they they didn't look like they. need to and it wasn't such an obviously baffling story just so you know you had. two million people in northern uganda hiding from one man and a bunch of kids that always smelled a bit fishy to me and also because they say the whole vibe was that. when i got there the story was so unbelievably different it really was a war that people were keeping going because it was making them so much money and the idea that the people who were the current see these refugees and children was something that was totally new to me you know why i knew from television news and i thought refugee was something you instinctively help them out of no i did they were cash cow and so i found myself you know you know if you can let's talk about that because i think people just know kone from this absurdly viral code and twenty twelve to do that actually came out years after you published this book jane talk about the story that you kind of encountered once you were on the ground that was different than what you learned the first thing that started happening to me was

meeting people who i was an old photos of coney and magic powers and i was going to stop him and i said well funnily enough you know we had a chance to stop him and they all have a variation of the same story we called it the only one we saw the. man coming to get up our kids the only didn't come the most famous story is the navy's school kidnapping in which one hundred thirty nine schoolgirls were taken in the middle of the night by these men and you think oh ransom kidnaping whole full spirits of the goes away nobody news knew where they went that was completely. not the case the girls the girls knew they were coming the army had been seen on their way to the elevator and seen walking towards the school the sister kelly the deputy headmistress went to three separate ugandan army bases that night begging for them to come up protect her girls nobody came when even when they all start to. you know should i close the school they said no no leave open why the whole thing is really really fishy it was known for you know

a long time it was going to happen president was seventy had been to the school before because girls had been taken and kidnapped for one girl never found again and yet when you can finally have the chance to stop joseph koni a really big high profile case didn't turn up the number of skewed one hundred nine girls the only rescued forty thousand strong army fully equipped only managed to rescue one of the side of the book numb hundred nine always warm hillary clinton said of this case there were no easy answers west scuse me i would not sit next to hillary clinton in rats. why i mean why would they let all these people go i mean what was the ugandan army getting out of going to have this kind of child army you maintain for a night i went to look at this refugee camp i saw starving people i've been told this refugee camp was protected a protected village protected by the entire industry protected by the ugandan government the week i was there seven girls were picked off by joseph coney's men and yet a good man from british government turns up sees the refugee what does he say does

he say oh let's get him out this camp that's fine joseph koni no he says i'm going to give you the government seven hundred million pounds in foreign aid factual give which goes directly to the government now the world food program at the time were asking for another sixty million you know to feed these people hungry people because they fled joseph koni into the camp but that was a lawyer because charities often long press releases and it gets reported as fact what actually happened was that the majority of those people had been driven into these camps fertile forms of course they wouldn't want to leave their food that's their land they were driven in by their own govern. point the military exercise at gunpoint if you then give you know chunk of hundreds of millions in aid to the people who have them in there is it any wonder that ten years later refugees money pure and simple and i will say the state department gives uganda four hundred fifty six million dollars annually that was just this year's amount in foreign aid exact uganda they will say for. the four hundred thousand if that goes towards health

care you think ok well that's because you've got a government called a fool to do that that's very nice but what can the government the government afford to do with the money we've sent them but their medical bills they buy seven hundred fifty trillion dollars jet you know they buy weapons which they suppress the civilian population how can a ugandan vote you know a better president if we keep keeping him in aid keeping him in power with enough money to buy the weapons the surprise that you are just throwing this money and a warlord and forwards in africa and these brutal regimes i mean expecting those to be filtered down to the public is just outrageous i can't even imagine what you thought when you saw the conan two thousand and twelve viral video after you had already written the book and already cutting through the heart of the story and seeing these guys obviously this question organization saying it's all about coney not even pointing out the kind of the criminal enterprise going on with ugandan military well it might surprise people but to be honest my first thought was good old joseph coming on the telly i mean so until cutting twenty two of the only

people that would run my story back in the day was the travel pages of the mine and sunday because the kids being kids that were black i promise you the men on sunday this is a newspaper so i want to send to their in google headline was probably people whose fault but. often it's every man and his brother that you gather one of the flight was called up to talk about it and everyone just thought you know it turned into the people's fun if you do if the point that it was like whoa this is it we can talk about the say i don't talk about the messenger talk about jessica jones yes. how did the canopy the scuse me and it was so it was it was it was like it was ridiculous monty python sketch of a. loss you might masturbating in public pool and who has done that since michael jackson. i also have play. ball we will talk about your you've been in kenya your work in kind of working to kind of report on the aid organizations there what is it all about here nothing was this this this is you

know when you pick up a souvenir well that went on your travels well i was in the congo researching a comedy drama about charities and i was taken into you know obviously can set up by the congo is the trying to do you think i'll spend affleck so i went you know this place will heal africa this is the mothership this is where he kids and goes to see the right and the priest to the gift shop so we workshop and he's saying you know somebody who's seventy thousand rape victims in his workshop he was so for the purpose of great by having the right victims my friends african needs number one right prince i don't know if you can see this but the fabric that gives a great victims of the congo so mike is right when he's covered the pictures of semi naked women serving beer i mean don't make this up and that's what they don't want to tell you the poverty and the brightness want to run in the congo. a huge messy ugly wall militia that was faced by the aid industry off two hundred genocide two million refugees top of the border in the congo burundi what are the industry

to thank them to them get them back on their feet without saying excuse me who are you they were the hutu genesee day they were two hundred fifty thousand axe murderers walking the refugees the hostages the charities to the if they even give them pubs and cinemas they paid them in cash that at the moment comes themselves. a journey to the dark heart of nameless unspeakable evil really appreciate you coming on by the book. that's our show you guys write me again tomorrow when i break all over again. just. curious to see a. little taste. of the words i would. say. but.

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six o'clock pretty cool. over by the show did you know the price is the only industry specifically mentioned because the judge. has because a free and open prize is critical to our democracy shrek and all those. that i know i'm sorry and on this show we reveal the picture of what's actually going on we go beyond identifying a problem trying to fix a rational debate and a real discussion critical issue. is facing america ready to join the movement then welcome to the big city. go on to our bit washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture. a recording allegedly of los angeles clippers owner donald sterling telling his girlfriend not to associate with african-americans has sent shock waves through the sports world what should

the n.b.a. do punish sterling and what do his comments say about the myth of a post racial society here in the united states also the koch brothers and their friends of alec are planning a massive land grab in the american west how does a deadbeat rancher clive and bundy fit into their scheme and how can we make sure that public lands stay in the hands of we the people rather than they the corporations and as the war in afghanistan the longest conflict in our nation's history draws to a close it's becoming more and more obvious that the money spent i could find a foreign nation could have been put to a much better use here at home more on that in tonight's speech. you need to know this we are far from having a post racial society and i want anyone who says otherwise from t.v.

commentators to supreme court justices is you the delusional or part of the problem . first we were being lectured about the negro while white white dead beat welfare rancher in nevada then i went on steroids over the weekend the website t.m.c. published a recording allegedly of los angeles clippers owner donald sterling telling his girlfriend who are self is of mixed race that she should stop taking pictures with black people and stop bringing black people but in the games an extended version that tape has been released by deadspin and is to say the least extremely offensive sterling is apparently horrified by the idea that people could think of his biggest race girlfriend as black take a listen. people are using tell you that i have black people i might use a graph and it probably repeated yeah there's a lot that you want to broadcast that year and soon black people. do you also see it with black people. i'm not you and your not me usually be

a. little girl you want to hear how he told me last i would do it that's what people do the church leaders are wrong i want you to love them privately if your whole life every day could be with them every single day of your life but not how little why publicize it on. to my teams so how exactly could someone who owns an n.b.a. team that has a majority black think this way. donald sterling has racial views apparently haven't really evolved much beyond those of scarlet areas day it's because he's a victim of culture. it is a question we don't live with what's right or wrong we live the society. we live in a culture we have to live with a culture but shouldn't we take

a stand for what is wrong indeed to change in the different i don't want to change the culture because i think it should be do you think see yourself. as if that wasn't bad enough the man allegedly supposed to be sterling can also be heard of a tape talking about his players in a way that could only be described from the point of view of a plantation owner. do you know they are one team that brass prays for you just do what. i supported and give you rules and your clothes and cars and houses who gives it to them someone else does to them do i know that i am. who you want me to be and these are thirty ownership. since these comments became public the sports media and the media in general have been talking about them nonstop and for good reason throughout american history

sports have been at the forefront of the popular discussion about race and race relations and all the n.b.a. in particular has become a huge symbol of racial success in recent years it's also been some discomforts run in the fact that all the league is made up mostly of black players there's only one african-american owner michael jordan of the charlotte b'sobcats donald sterling's racist comments suggest that everyone's worst fears about that situation are true that despite all their success black athletes will never be seen as equals by the owners or by the elite this is about basketball but at the same time it's about much more than that it's about the pervasiveness of a kind of brutal and nasty racism that many people want to pretend does not exist america what happens next is unclear but the backlash has already started and won't stop as long as sterling remains in charge of the clippers as for the afternoon as players silently protested his remarks before their game of placing their warm up jackets in the center of the court and turning their jerseys inside out to hide and hide the clippers logo and c.p.

of los angeles meanwhile has canceled plans to give sterling a lifetime achievement award and the n.b.a. has said that it will announce its plans on how to deal with the clippers owner tomorrow for the rest of us however it's time to think long and hard and ask ourselves why anyone ever thought we were living in a post racial society joining me now for more on this is reverend lennox yearwood jr president and c.e.o. of the hip-hop caucus urban you're welcome so good to be here great to have you with us first of all what were your thoughts when you heard these comments but as you know it's funny i played college basketball and so you know you had dreams of going to the n.b.a. begin to think what would i do in that position and it was tough to hear that a me was hurtful it was tough because you know bass was one sport where you think you know all this can kind of come together and play it is dead one. when the playground where if you're black white brown yellow the one of them as if you have gay so to speak you come to you and so to hear his perspective and his racism.

it was it was shattering to hear that kind of language and that kind of context today and i mean for me and also it could open up a can of worms because you know this wasn't a people now no it wasn't a first time they've been great authors who are who talk about his response before slum slumlord billionaire what he's done outside of the housing projects so you know this wasn't new but to have the n.b.a. kind of now hear it now to have him kind of tolerate this kind of give him players it's been rough to hear that but also as much and end up with c.p. i mean i think for me as a black leader. i think we have to take a long look in the mirror we know that folks have been giving us resources and we need resources to do our work but when people like this can give you resources and you're giving them lifetime achievement awards it makes us really think about who are we celebrating who are we allowing them to be at the top of our process it

hurts a lot to have that also be a part of this conversation yeah. it seems that there's a there's clearly a race teachable moment here there might also be a sports teachable moment i mean i don't know your your thoughts on this or or familiarity with with the sports world but mine is pretty minimal but but i do know that the two thousand years ago in ancient rome gladiators were sponsored by the equivalent of today's billionaires yes that those those billionaires who sponsored the gladiators. were basically the also the the lords of local towns so you had the richest guy in town who owned you know a gladiator and they'd put them in and they'd fight to the death and everybody would go up to up and how is that different than what we've got now and might we be looking in instead of this sports model of billionaires owning teams of either worker on co-ops turning the teams into that or the green bay packers model

community owned team exactly what the packers started out as were you thoughts on that i mean i do think that this has revealed a very dark side to the corporate class that that component of those billionaires who are running these n.b.a. franchises. and i do think that model that for the gladiator. but i think more point i think that as we have dissolute with jackie robinson and was celebrating so many of the athletes breaking the color barrier now the search or your taste in barrier this is a wonderful time that sports can transcend. and to have. this type of dialogue and this type of conversation with this owner and really his is even more so than it's a race it's own the players. it's a very plantation mind celery so i think that that's what's so troubling it's not that i don't like people who are black but almost like i think our own people who

are black so they should be grateful for me giving them a job and so i think what i've seen with. the players i was very proud to see the players did something they turned their guns inside out and they were the black armbands the black sox symbolic back to the sixty eight olympics so those are very encouraging signs because they do have a shoe impact on on on on other young people coming up but i will say this though as vile as you mentioned before with donald sterling is and regard to his comments that same mentality actually that corporate mentality of that you can do anything you want to do is the same thing with dealing with the other sectors we heard it while you were in the divest yes is the same tosses from know the same thing with well you know what about issues i mean there's definitely goes into from those people who are tired of workers trying to get a decent wage to have least get a bit always a fifteen dollars an hour to those who are dealing with economic justice those who

are dealing with the system but even those who are dealing with climate change which is what this divest that we are even seeing that based upon your color that folks who have these huge operations are putting. power plants into some of the poorest neighborhoods and so this divest hat is one aspect of young people coming together saying that listen we cannot continue on this pathway one climate change that would destroy our planet but more importantly long term i think that what we're looking for far as a country they're looking for a clean america you know where they were no racism is there. you know is this an ugly thing but we're looking for a clean america where we can have a civil right we have a right to clean air we've all right to clean water is a right to live in this country not be polluted and so this divest but this divest movement but also the overall act on climate movement that we're pushing right now it's divest from carbon based comp it is divest from carbon based fossil fuel

companies but even more so i think we're trying to make sure that the kind of power plants which have no standards to making this existing and those that are to be built have no standards right now to how much they can pollute and what they can pollute and so we're looking to have these standards put in place and we're looking for the e.p.a. and the president to make sure we can put these carbon is in place i wish you the very best no thank you so much every day thanks so much for being with thank you. coming up when clive in bundy's standoff with the feds first made national news earlier this month the coke bag group americans for prosperity was all over it from the coke so concerned with the deadbeat nevada rancher and what does it have to do with their plan to start a massive land grab in the american west. i

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are worse. in the finish line of the marathon. in screw news if you're still trying to understand what the bundy ranch standoff was really all about it's only your nose ring to the koch brothers that when fox news first started promoting the auto rancher as a modern day folk hero a few weeks ago it was joined in its p.r. campaign by the koch backed group americans for prosperity a.f.p.

is nevada chapter sent out photos mocking the bureau of land management for trying to round up monday's out and also push the hashtag monday battle on twitter when they have p. first weighed in on the bundy controversy many commentators were quick to point out that since the koch brothers have massive investments in the cattle industry and gray's some of their livestock on public land run by the b.l.m. their interest in bundy's fight might be more about might be about more than just politics it turns out those commentators are apparently right. growing body of evidence shows that the koch's and their friends of the american legislative exchange council alec promoted the bundy controversy as a way to gain public support for one of their biggest goals the exploitation of publicly owned land joining me now for more on this is lisa graves president of progressive ink and publisher of the progressive p.r. watch and alec exposed dot org lisa welcome back thanks for having me great to have

you with us so it turns out the conspiracy theories were true well it's true that the american legion exchange council alec has its hands on a whole lot of bad ideas including the effort to private or to privatized awfully privatized our public lands by getting them out of federal hands in a state hands with it we sold off to the energy industry so it sold. so. walk me through this out of federal into state why does how does that help you well i think that right now under federal law a number of these public lands are protected because they're the public lands there wilderness areas where there are other areas that are intended for the use of all americans to enjoy nature to enjoy recreation and there are some regulation obviously about how those lands are used in terms of cattle grazing there's there is some mining and certainly some drilling on those lands but that land is regulated at least supposed to be regulated to protect the public's interest in those lands and not just the private sectors interests and so a lot of these states that are pushing this alec agenda are community push this

agenda to get the land out of federal hands in the state hands where those state legislators are eager to sell it off to their corporate friends. in the state can say oh we just balance our budget and others can or whoever can say we just bought some land right well and alex agenda on federal lands has been around for well for more than two decades it's been part of the sagebrush rebellion effort since the one nine hundred seventy s. and then when the coke started finding out like at least when we learned that they have since one thousand nine hundred ninety three for the last twenty years this has been part of the alec agenda and koch industries has been part of alec a leader baloch on alex board for twenty years and this is continuing to be part of al its agenda this effort to privatized our public lands in the guise of taking them out of federal hands and putting them into state hands i understand they actually had a success in utah with the republican governor there do i have that right that's right so one of the alec bills was in essence adopted by the utah legislature and signed into law by the state of utah that that law has been challenged at least in

principle as being unconstitutional contrary to the very documents that brought utah into the union but that hasn't stopped these guys from pushing forward in their efforts to privatizing to all to ultimately privatizing public lands what are the what are the one you say well. it basically means that the federal lands would come out of federal federal hands and be transferred to the state how does utah have the power to do that. that is an excellent question and there are lawyers in utah who say that does not have that power and so they claim innocence by issuing an edict and they cite some seven hundred ninety law some ninety seven hundred eighty law about the supremacy clause i think of bay and when they read the constitution they ignore the supremacy clause in a lot of different ways that's a fundamental part of the constitution in terms of the relationship between the federal government state government but a lot of out legislators they pretend that they don't really know what this have some of the cause i mean for a lot of them seem to think that we're actually still operating out of the articles of confederation i think that's right i think that when you look at the articles going to print edition which had

a very weak federal government which was shrugged off by our founding fathers when they built the us constitution a lot of these guys want to go back to those days i think that's my opinion the fact is that this so-called states' rights movement is really it's really not about states' rights it's really not about people's rights it's about energy companies and it's about the effort to get more drilling on these lands and the legislator in utah i read mr ivory has been has been pretty clear about his desire to get those federal lands out of federal control and in the hands of drilling and and mining of mining operations remarkable. do you think that clive in bundy's being really revealed as a racist has been. a maybe a bad thing because it has allowed all the the right wingers to just kind of discharge him and the real issue of this guy being twenty years put those cows on federal land and not paying for it and the fact that paul krugman did a great piece of this in today's times the fact that if you want to graze your cows

on private land most private landowners will charge six or seven bucks a calm month right federal and it's like a buck thirty five i think that it hasn't gone up much in about eighty years right and and so i mean here's the older welfare queen who over the last twenty years has been you know taken the checks and even i don't know i can't come up with a metaphor but. but now. now the issue has shifted to his being a racist and we're not talking about that anymore is that it's not a problem but i think it is a loss in some ways to focus on his obvious manifest racism in the ridiculous absurd offensive comments he's made on the other hand the right wing chose to make him its hero chose to elevate him as a hero not withstand the fact that he was ripping us off by not paying his fair share of grazing fees and thinking that he was above the law you know this is a situation in which the real issue isn't even bundy's racism although it's certainly an issue but the real issue is this effort to basically rip away our

public and our public lands america's public lands our wilderness areas and so much for the highest bidder it's really remarkable and they've already kind of gotten halfway there in one state they're trying to other states. like the american legislative exchange council followed by the way by paul weyrich the guy who's you know i don't want everybody to vote you know the fact frankly is are as the voting populace goes down our leverage goes up. they've been sponsoring laws to prevent people from voting but now they've got a new schtick they've always hated taxes right but now they seem to be in favor of taxes tell me about this well the american exchange council which we helped expose in our alec exposed project out expose that org has a deep hostility to solar energy and so in documents that were actually published by the guardian magazine last december there were discussions of their effort to punish punish and penalize americans who put solar panels on their roofs and put energy back into the grid and so alec has invented this idea that these people are

free loaders and the thing to be taxed and so that's part of the alec agenda the alec agenda is to make it harder and create disincentives for people to put solar on their roofs if they give energy back they want to tax them for doing so that so in fact as the new york times. just yesterday and as people who've been watching this have noticed on this is the one tax it appears that the koch funded alec really supports that. soler do they do they have any republicans who are with the mons well they have the republicans who were in that task force the alec task force where the corporate lobbyists vote side by side as equals with those legislators and so this is part of the an agenda that has been approved by republican primarily republican lawmakers across the country has been introduced into any state legislation in oklahoma so it just passed on in oklahoma so their wish list if you have passed both houses the legislation i believe i believe it passed both houses i have to double check but it certainly passed one house i think it's on its way to becoming law it's not law already this is inserted it is it's

a standard grover norquist you need it the founding well don't get me started on that yeah yeah i know i don't have the scam to but he's i his group a.t.r. americans have been part of alec has been part of these taskforce that were just corporations but behind closed doors so alec is largely because of our about the genesis it's about the billionaires and it's all about the energy companies the back alley we see your brilliant thanks for having us thanks so much keep up the great thank. you know the news with net neutrality hanging on by the thinnest of threads big cable and internet companies can sit back and relax knowing that they've got friends in the highest of high places the federal communications commission the f.c.c. the number of people working at that agency who have in the past and work on behalf of the telecommunications industry is astounding and the problem starts at the very top f.c.c. chairman tom wheeler and obama appointee and the man behind a series of rules proposed last week that would gut net neutrality is himself a formal cable industry lobbyist is senior counselor for verveer meanwhile has

according to reporting by the fact done work for comcast just this past year and previously helped out the wireless association and the national cable and telecommunications association with their efforts to destroy a free and open internet in other wheeler's main advisors an attorney by the name of daniel alvarez pressed the f.c.c. to abandon net neutrality is reason is two thousand. town hall representing comcast for the law firm willkie far and gallagher and at the same time matthew bell narrow who according to leaf on was brought into the f.c.c. specifically to work on net neutrality used to represent t.d.'s tell and net neutrality internet service provider in the list doesn't stop there and c.c. commissioner i used to work as general counsel for verizon is one of wheeler's advisors running car used to work as a lawyer for arisan century link and comcast and advisors will if the f.c.c. does not end up killing net neutrality we should if they if they end up killing net

neutrality we should not be surprised after all this point the agency is essentially a lobbying firm for the telecom industry. thank . you. crazier brownlow's gone wild betty winkle is eighty six years old lives in williams town kentucky is no ordinary grandma she's an internet superstar who's become a digital celebrity of sorts for her lady posts and sassy tongue in cheek sense of humor a quick tour through her instagram profile shows us what the fuss is all about twenty one goals most popular posts is a picture of her in a bathing suit with the caption on my way to steal your man another is a picture of her with a hula hoop that says why tour when you can hoop it was also posted an instagram

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a free and open press is critical to our democracy shrek i'll just. go i'm. going to go i'm sorry and on this show we reveal the picture of what's actually going on we go beyond identifying the truck crash will be a real discussion critical issues facing camera ready to join the movement then welcome to the big picture. welcome back to the big picture i'm tom hartman coming up in this half hour how can one be happy what is true happiness and money certainly can't buy happiness right. now i got two questions for you what do you do and how do you do. a stock book on looks so mean and b. to me. why has happiness remained so mysterious what does it really mean to have

answered later in the show and back in october of two thousand and one president bush was offered a way out of the war in afghanistan that would have saved america hundreds of billions of dollars and thousands of lives as we all know he didn't take that offer and today we've spent over seven hundred thirteen billion in afghanistan couldn't that money have been put to a better use more on that in tonight's data. in the best of the rest of the news it's been just over a years rana plaza factor it is as in bangladesh on april twenty fourth of last year an eight story factory building to produce clothing for a number of american stores came tumbling to the ground killing over eleven hundred people and injuring another twenty five hundred including eight hundred children in

the immediate aftermath of the ronna plaza disaster there were calls for stores that use such factories to make their goods to improve the safety conditions of their workers after all companies like wal-mart and target were making billions in profits all the people responsible for those profits were risking their lives every day to provide for their families but in the years since ronald plaza very little has changed and workers in bangladesh and other third world countries are continuing to risk their lives so american corporations can rake in billions joining me now for more on this and what can be done to improve conditions going forward is bob bland founder and c.e.o. of manufacture new york bob welcome. hi thanks for joining us what set the stage let's let's revisit the initial situation for a moment what's at the stage for the rhonda plaza disaster. right. for the last fifteen years the fashion industry has been engaged in

a race to the bottom of the supply chain and we have been producing unsustainable fast fashion which is basically cheap clothing that is made at a price point that isn't just not possible when you're actually paying workers a living wage and ensuring safe working conditions and the customer has become acclimated to an environment where they can get impossibly low prices on their clothes without really knowing the true costs of how it's made so what were the working in safety conditions like around applause or before the collapse. pre-collapse rana plaza the workers were already having to pull shifts of twelve or more hours per day while only making thirty six dollars per month as their wage they were asked to work in very unsafe conditions and

often they had no choice of taking a sick day or a day off if they needed to be with their family as a result of the workers were actually even when they question the structure of the building and saw the huge cracks in the ceiling that were occurring on the day that run a puzzler collapse they were still ushered inside and forced to work which is why there was such a high death count one eight hundred children what's that about. well in some parts of the world child labor is still just considered socially acceptable and so as a result of there being a lack of regulation young children are still brought to work alongside their parents often times. they do some of the hardest tasks like to throwing on buttons all day or just doing ironing or very specific tasks like.

in parts of the road even where we do have regulation fourteen is considered to be an adult age so oftentimes you find kids that should be in school are actually working in the garment factory to make sure that their parents and themselves can have food on the table every night and that american corporation can make billions american consumers can have cheap stuff. right. many of these stores were basically outed by this crash and there were a number of brands that were very visibly mentioned in the press of any of these stores they use their own applause. facilities change their behavior of the every given money to the survivors of the maid safety upgrades every what's what's come out of it. so a lot has been accomplished in the last year post run of. one initiative that's international called the bangladesh accord has actually had one hundred fifty

companies internationally signed on to ensuring much better regulation of building safety because what you have to understand those pre run up. buildings safety was not actually part of the compliance one factory is were looked at they didn't actually look at the structural soundness of the buildings now that is a regulated part. of the overseeing of the factory is also many workers have received compensation from the bangladeshi government and from these companies as a part of the bangladesh accord however there are some noticeable exceptions of american companies that have elected to not join the bangladesh accord and come up with their own options that are only policed by themselves and most notably about

includes wal-mart and gap what a surprise what can americans do to fight back against this and tell us about your organization manufacture in new york. right manufacture new york is a fashion incubator product development facility dedicated to local supply chains and bringing back to meth production to the united states and ethical sustainable way we support living wages excellent working conditions throughout the globe because we know that for fashion to exist in the twenty first century we need to all work together to make sure that manufacturing jobs are some of the best jobs there are you know before the american revolution it was illegal to make fine clothing in the united states it had to be imported from england and when washington was notified that he is going to be sworn in as president he knew there

was this one guy i think his name was daniel hinshaw up in connecticut who was like bootlegging buying clothing and he sent general locks off to bring him a suit and he was sworn in wearing an american made suit. and and then he put into place tariffs averaging around thirty percent which stood from seven hundred ninety three until basically the reagan administration that caused us to continue manufacturing clothing and all kinds of other things in the united states those have now our average import tariff is now two percent they are. gone away do you see that or. regulation or vat taxes i mean what it what is the is there a political mechanism for bringing manufacturing back to the united states in addition to the kind of work that you're doing of just you know design and putting it together. right well this really is a global industry. fashion generates over two point five trillion dollars in revenue per year and over sixty million people worldwide are employed in

the fashion industry many of them in manufacturing we feel that manufacture in new york the free trade agreements one not done properly for instance trans pacific it's going on right now and that obama is. really a big part of driving forward if not actually the best for our economy and it puts us in even a less competitive position than we have been previously especially as pertains to manufacturing so we need to both a political solution and a a an industrial solution as it were it seems well we are a whole community in america and so we need governments community is private corporations like mine nonprofits everyone has to work together to fix the supply chain and to ensure that things are being made right blend you're doing great work

manufacturing new york thank you so much for being with us thank you. it's the good the bad of the very very long. ugly the good pope francis earlier today the bishop of rome who has made a name for himself with a strong views on capitalism and social justice center a tweet that is probably his sharpest work and critique yet of economic policy the seven word tweet is short and to the point where you know the pope inequality is the root of social evil i think thomas piketty and jesus for that matter that have to agree hope every american politician who calls himself a christian paying attention to what hope is taught. the bad harley avenue primary

school every year kindergartners at this long island school look forward to working on and performing in a student play this year however that play isn't going to happen in the reason why will shock you check it out. give a garden show at the harley avenue school in elwood has been a tradition for years but this year the district council to show school officials explain to parents it was canceled because the kindergartners need to prepare for college. that's right school administrators canceled the harley avenue kindergarten play because they didn't think it helped kindergartners out with their college applications this is getting absurd and a very very ugly sarah pail during a speech in the area on your meeting in indianapolis over the weekend the former alaska governor after her and two thousand and eight g.o.p. candidate for vice president let loose on how things would be different in america if she would. if i were in charge.

they would know that why. is how we baptized here is. church or as baptists i go to jail it was supposed to be a proud christian not a sadist comments like that she makes dick cheney look tame like a sin and that alone is fair. coming up america has spent seven hundred thirteen billion dollars and counting on the war in afghanistan and a new study shows that money could have been used for much more important things in times daily take i'll tell you about how george w. bush had the chance to give every student in america a free public college education but decided instead to start a war. with

wonderful strong arming a lot of these college face i think sometimes. a pleasure to have you with us here on t.v. today i'm researcher. and.

i would rather i asked questions to people in positions of power instead of speaking on their behalf and that's why you can find my show larry king now right here on our question or. so sometimes you know what you know and sometimes you know what you don't know and sometimes it's the fires and theaters if we think you know is wrong and i don't think you're wrong what you want to hear your right to speculate i'll just say to you that you're right i'm your mind off everything you know is wrong since the dawn of time people have been asking what's the secret to happiness and what does it mean to be truly happy there's more money for example mean greater levels of

happiness or can someone be perfectly content with their life without vast riches and wealth. is happiness even that clear cut or is it a lot more complicated and harder to assess than we all think so if you think you know what it really means to be happy then perhaps everything you know is wrong joining me now for more on this is professor daniel m.-a habermann associate professor of philosophy at st louis university and author of the book happiness a very short introduction professor haber welcome to the program. tom thanks so much for having me thanks for joining us most people think they know what it means to be happy doing. well you know or is that even an accurate statement the most people think they know what i mean. it's hard to assess because there are so many things we can mean by that actually but but. if you ask people if they're happy like in the united states almost everybody says

that they're happy on and part of that i think is because we don't really have an agreed upon meeting for the term and it's actually it is a little more complicated than we tend to think so. how is it complicated and what do we need to know about happiness that we don't know. whether. people often talk about happiness in terms of a judgment of being satisfied with your life or thinking your life is going well enough for you. and that's one legitimate way to think about happiness but i think actually what we when we talk about you know what we want for our children say that we want to be healthy and happy but we tend to be more interested and i think is what i would call emotional wellbeing. something like kind of the opposite in a very positive way of. anxiety and depression so being in good spirits being at peace and but how so having

a spirit and vitality being gauged emotionally with your life. and and that is not always easy to judge that you know you know back in the seventy's even as low positive hierarchy of human needs and at the bottom was homeostasis you know the need to have all your bodily functions and all reasonable temperature and safety and then he got into the social needs and then he got into the inner personal needs and then intellectual and finally spiritual and but there was a point there there was absolutely necessary that a certain level of needs be fulfilled for you to have a minimum life as it were. there have been studies done on you know economically in the united states that indicate that basically kind of a middle income is the point beyond which you had money you don't get more happiness you have to find of the. really reduce happiness is that consistent in

the findings with your findings. or yes that's when you think about happiness as an emotional matter on it does look like in the united states for instance makes a big difference if you're having trouble making ends meet and you're not be able to meet those needs and in the united states that's actually fairly high. high threshold. and. and then. but beyond that it doesn't seem to make much of a difference and what seems to matter more of things like your relationships their quality of your work and abby a good outlook things like that but meeting those needs is really essential oils and that they're good outlet a good outlook i find that fascinating to what extent in temperament is something that we seem to be born with our kind of our baseline level emotionality and to what extent that influences the temperament influences happiness. i think it's

a very important factor a lot of researchers for a long time researchers were often saying we have this kind of innate built and set point level of happiness and there's nothing you can do it's like trying to make yourself taller. and actually even something that has a strong genetic component like how tall you are it turns out that we can do a lot to effect that at least in a societal level so like in the netherlands one hundred fifty years ago the average height for a man was about five foot four and now. the average height is about six eight inches taller. and so even though height is has a very secure problems. yeah we have we have just just thirty seconds left you've had do you know you did a study or you talked about a study in calcutta india and egypt and you new york times piece columns very quickly about that. so you often see people reporting very high levels of happiness

even in core circumstances or fairly high levels and in many cases i think actually people really are happier than you would expect and that there is happiness in the workplace i think that's a really important finding but you also find that in some of the cases where you ask that like with people living in certain slum in cairo if they won't why are you satisfied with your life and the answers they give make it so it well they're saying they're satisfied because they don't actually think their lives are that good it's just that they think well they're going to count their blessings and they're going to make the best of what they've got an answer to say well you know when days get another one the other is bad but what got gets me is kind of the stories that they're telling themselves about how things are professional professor daniel haber and thank you so much for being with us today i thank you tom and now everything you know about happiness is right.

for tonight's greener aboard what do you do woodland that's been destroyed by the fossil fuel industry you turn into a solar farm of course the maywood solar farm in indiana is forty three acres it's made up of thirty six thousand solar panels and it sits on the site of a former coal tar refinery plant which was designated as a superfund site by the e.p.a. . back in the one nine hundred eighty s. environmental regulatory officials found that the groundwater beneath the plant was contaminated with dangerous chemicals and ruled that the property could no longer be used however thanks to the e.p.a.'s new superfund redevelopment project that land is now one of eighty five renewable energy projects that together produce five hundred seven million watts of clean renewable power and toxic sites in georgia north carolina. and be doing the same it's nearly impossible to undo the damage that chemical plants and fossil fuel development does to our environment but this is a great way to make use of the land that they've destroyed we should be expanding this

program all over the country and breathing new life into devastated land by building solar and wind plants in every area that these industries have destroyed. every kid in america could have a free public college education but right now if george w. bush admin such a war monger in early two thousand and one prior to the war in afghanistan the taliban government in afghanistan issued an edict to ban opium cultivation in that nation saying it was a violation of his long opium is the raw material for heroin and worked pretty well in two thousand roughly forty five hundred metric tons of opium was produced in afghanistan and in two thousand and one the year that they issued that that edict

that number plummet plummeted to less than a thousand metric tons the price a heroin went up all around the world the number of addicts particularly in europe russia and america dropped and the bush administration was so impressed by the decrease in opium production that they gave forty three million dollars to the taliban to encourage a continued to halt in opium production paul forty three million may not seem like a lot of money it's important to put it in context at the time of the deal afghanistan's total g.d.p. was just two billion dollars putting it at the bottom of the global g.d.p. rankings it was literally the poorest country in the world. so for the taliban forty three million was a lot of money george w. bush's decision to fork over forty three million with the taliban to help curb drug trafficking use of abuse is actually a good choice smart policy now fast forward to the days and weeks after nine eleven

on october fourteenth two thousand and one a senior taliban leader deputy prime minister. said an official order offered to washington saying that the taliban would be willing to hand over osama bin laden to a third party country if the us stop bombing afghanistan could be or said if america were to step back from the current policy then we could negotiate then we could discuss which third country but bush the same man who just months earlier at hand over a small fortune of the taliban government to get him to stop the opium rejected this latest offer of cooperation instead he took up a scorched earth policy and bombed afghanistan and afghanistan back to the stone age bush's decision to invade afghanistan has cost our country over seven hundred thirteen billion dollars just since two thousand and one and that number is rising by the millisecond as you can see at the bottom of your screen in fact every hour the war in afghanistan is costing we the people us me another ten point one seven

million dollars the taliban offered to hand over bin laden on a silver platter but we said no and now it's cost us hundreds of billions of dollars but what if george w. bush had taken up that offer from the taliban and had sweetened the deal like he did with the opium the deal to get bin lot what if he did simply similar what he'd done just months before and offered the taliban cash if they promise to cut down on terrorism clear out al qaeda and change their presence in that nation. we could've given the taliban as much as two billion dollars enough to double the nation's g.d.p. to make everybody in the country twice as wealthy it still would have only been a drop in the bucket compared to what we've spent on the war in afghanistan and if we had done that we would have saved ourselves enough money to provide a free public college education to every single eligible student in america as the atlantic points out according to department of education datta public colleges

across america collected sixty two point six billion intuition from undergraduates in two thousand and twelve that means that the federal government would have only had to spend sixty two billion dollars to help make public college tuition free for every student in america in two thousand and twelve. that's less than eleven percent of what we spent on the war in afghanistan. the bottom line here is the george w. bush had a chance to get america's priorities right and he failed and we're thirteen years into america's longest war fortunately he's not in washington anymore which means there's no pork skewes is to continue the outrageous levels of spending that we're seeing in afghanistan today during this daily take a loan we have spent roughly eight hundred forty seven thousand five hundred dollars in afghanistan so now instead of spending trillions of dollars on prolonging the bush legacy of on just wars we should be spending those trillions on the things that will make america great again by giving every eligible student in america a free college education. and that's the way it is tonight monday april twenty

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